nobody ever talks about how they killed dagon

i'd guess it's because:

  • dagon wasn't directly nerfed
  • nobody likes dagon users
  • nobody understands how dagon got killed

dagon is useless now because:

  • neutral items give tons of hp for free. i cannot overstate how much this wrecks dagon. just a shovel cancels out more damage than an entire level of dagon (1250 gold). a pupil's gift cancels out 3 levels of dagon (1250x3 gold)
  • most of the good items in the game give hp as secondary stats (echo sabre, satanic, SnY, manta) so everyone's hps are inflated at no opportunity cost
  • everyone gets gold faster
  • supports can spend their gold on hp instead of wards and TPs
  • most support items give EHP vs dagon (glimmer, force staff)
  • snowballing early isn't a thing due to how comeback mechanics work
  • carries end the game with way more EHP than they used to, making dagon fall off even harder

any of these changes is enough to cripple the already-weak dagon, but combined it's just massive massive overkill. supports are too tanky to burst in the early game and carries are way too tanky to burst late game. dagon is in the worst place it's ever been in dota2. all these reasons are also why radiance is in a bad place and a handful of bursty mid heroes that nobody plays anymore.

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